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Jocelyn Barrios Castaneda
1/27/2013 11:25:20 am
Women Shouldnt Be Exculded Because Everyone Has The right to Do It Dosent Matter if its a male or female job if your committed to your job then everyone is capable of doing anything
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Thao Do
1/28/2013 09:52:17 am
I agree with Jocelyn. I think that women and men should have the same rights. Limitting women from certain jobs prevents them from being equal to men.
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Jhosimarth Aguero
1/27/2013 01:03:47 pm
I agree with Jocelyn, Women should be included because they can also accomplish the same thing as a male and i also think if your committed you can accomplish anything. I also want to say that women are strong to and that is why women should be given a chance.
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Jessica Santos
1/27/2013 11:32:49 pm
Personally, I think women SHOULD be allowed to serve the army because "we are all equal." I don't think women should be considered any less than a man. In article "Band of brothers," Robert H. Scales names a few things that his female daughters have done for the army. Their daughters have done things such as, served as officers, and both served in combat divisions. women may not physically be as "tough" as man, but we both have a brain and can learn things. Another thing, for people that think rape should be an excuse for women to not be around men, (I am not trying to say it isn't an important disgusting problem) why would we give into such cruelty? If women stop serving the army, we will give into what everyone wants. women need to prove them wrong and not let anyone disrespect them.
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David Briseno
1/28/2013 09:36:36 am
I agree with you because I also believe that women are just or more capable to do the things a men can do. Take the 2012 Olympics or women made it than men did.
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erika roque
1/28/2013 06:32:06 am
In my opinion I believe women should not be excluded from combat like hennerger said women are only being "protected from stars not bombs". We are just as equal as men when women have gone into the army they deal with the same things as men. Showing they are capable of being in combat. Women are said to be a distraction but gays are allowed to be in the army so what difference does it make for someone to be a women. We do not get any kind of special treatment when registering for the army we do the same as men have to meet a certain elgibility in order to be omitted.
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miguel barbosa
1/28/2013 09:52:14 am
I agree with Erika on "women should not be excluded from combat but there are some women that can't handle themselves in combat situations. Then again there are women that can handle themselves in those situation but most women would let their emotions get to them.
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erika roque
1/28/2013 06:38:56 am
I also agree with jessica i feel they are using excuses to keep women out of the army. However im not saying its a good thing for sexual asualt i just feel this is a reason why they want to exclude women out of certain combats. Men say we are a distraction to them because they fell the need to look after us. We are just as trained as them and we dont feel they are a distraction so why exclude women.
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Jhosimarth Aguero
1/28/2013 08:04:54 am
Women should be treated the same because we are all equal and shold be let into combat just as Robert H. Scales did in the article "Band of brothers" when women served as gunners. In "protected from stars not bombs".women have shown they shouldnt be exculded because they have been women that have been four star generals but are not getting credit for it.In "protected from stars not bombs" women are a distraction but men is the mens fault for getting distracted not the womens fault. Sexual assult is an issue but it can be solved but it doesnt mean to exclude women from combat fields and artillery. Women have also accomplished just as many things as the men and have proven they should be included in combat.
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David Briseno
1/28/2013 09:29:28 am
Women should not be removed from the armed forces because no forced them to join the army. They should ave known what they were getting into before they join. Also before they are even deployed to were they are needed to fight. they must go though training and other course to be able to go and fight.
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Laura Huerta
1/28/2013 12:30:54 pm
I agree with David they get trained and therefore they know what they are getting into. They just don't go on how they are right now
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Genesis Herrera
1/28/2013 09:32:00 am
Women shouldn't be excluded because honestly woman are not any different than men, woman are very strong and they could accomplish anything if they work hard not just men, people really need to give the woman a chance.
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vanessa vega
1/28/2013 01:05:04 pm
i agree with Genesis because , yes , men are hard working but women are also. Many do not realize how committed women are to things and for the women serving they are committed to fight and sacrifice their lives . They should not be excluded just because men cannot handle themselves , saying they are a distraction
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Cortlyn Raymond
1/28/2013 09:45:18 am
Women should not be excluded from the armed forces because whether somebody is a man or a woman they all go through the same kind of training. Therefore if a woman can pass this training, just like a man can than who is someone to say that the woman is less prepared just because of her gender?
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Thao Do
1/28/2013 09:49:36 am
I think that women should not be excluded from close combat situations. Although Irene Overholts have stated, "Sexual assault is a huge problem in the millitary", the solution cannot be eliminating women from combat units. Women are victims of sexual assaults, so is taking away their positions to limit sexual harassment in the army fair? A long time ago, the abilities of women who wanted to work in highly educated areas were unexceptionally denied. Today, however, many prominent doctors and lawyers are female. The ability of women is questioned again in combat situations. I think that if women are given a chance, they will accomplish what most think is impossible.
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Mrs. Warner
1/29/2013 03:52:59 am
Nice comment!
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Laura Huerta
1/28/2013 12:28:20 pm
In my opinion women should not be excluded because since the men in combat zones say they "are distracted not by women as potential dates but as colleagues they feel they need to look out for" (Henneberger 8), why do they sexually assault them? Also they don't accuse the man so this shows that they are emotionally capable.
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Cortlyn Raymond
1/28/2013 01:49:46 pm
I agree with you completely. You are right if they feel like the women need to be protected then why are the women constantly being sexually assaulted? That is a very good point.
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Jesse Mendoza
1/28/2013 12:52:27 pm
I think women should not be excluded from fighting in close combat. In the article "protected from Stars, not Bombs" it states that women already get experience from combat so why should women be excluded? Women are just as good as men are in the battlefield. Women may not be as physical as men but they can still handle themselves in combat.This makes sexual harassment a problem in the military.
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vanessa vega
1/28/2013 12:59:34 pm
i think women should not be excluded from armed forces because even though women can come off as weak,and fragile women can still be able to reach the levels of man and be strong , and fearless, they have passed the test making the physically fit and willing to make the ultimate sacrafice as told in the article of Band of Brothers. . Those women are fighting for our country and should be credited for being out there giving there all to serve for our country because men are know for being strong and being brave , but to know that women are out there reaching those heights is all the more better and most inspiring .
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Jesse Mendoza
1/28/2013 01:31:08 pm
I agree with Vanessa. Women already have the the experience so why do they need to exclude women? Women should not be "protected from stars". Women know what they are fighting for and know that they are risking their life just like men.
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Jocelyn Barrios Castaneda
1/28/2013 01:32:45 pm
I agree with vanessa because women who are in the military joined for a reason and no one stops them as hennenberger said "air force Maj.Mary Hegar, A helicopter pilot who flew combat search and rescue was shot down three years ago while carrying three injured troops,and returned fire after sustaining shrapnel wounds" in this case she stood up and continued she pass through a tough situation. Women are capable of anything if they put their effort and never give up on what they want.
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Christopher Estrada
1/28/2013 01:48:52 pm
women should not be excluded from certain branches... women are just as good as men on any branch wether is comes to infantry or armory
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Christopher Estrada
1/28/2013 01:52:04 pm
whatever it takes to be an infantry soldier do you have the courage and are willing to make sacrifices? if the women soldier is pretty sure she is ready i would trust them and let them be and let them decide what they want to do as a soldier of the military
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Ellen Tigerino
1/28/2013 01:58:46 pm
I am against combat exclusion for women I do not find it right that women are not being treated with respect and mentioned for their service. In the article Protected from Stars it says that four women should be mentioned for their service, and that only two have been recognized. Women should be able to fight in hand to hand combat because they are capable of doing what men do. Women should not be seen as distractions because there are gay men who can easily be distracted a well. Straight men can also distract women. Even thought the band of brothers affect works, women are capable of bing part of the band of brothers, but people are not letting women have a chance in the military. People will sacrifice themselves to save others. Just because there is a women in your team that dose not mean that you would exclude her; she would have sacrifed her life and saved her team as well. Many women in the service see that they are limlited, and should be treated as equals instead of being raped. To what Mark said about men raping women because their wives are far away; it is not right. Women should not be raped but treated with respect because they fight and can hold a gun like anyone else.
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Christopher Estrada
1/28/2013 02:10:09 pm
A band of brothers can include women of course gender shouldnt matter all that matters is dedication and skills... women shouldnt be different from men they go through the same exact training as men there is no special training specialized for men or specialized for women. the reputation of women not being able to do certain things like men because of strength or size i totally disagree with. people in the military are no different they are just warfighters. what i think to myself can women be navy seals. yes of course heres what i think you can train females to do the same hard standards as special operations . you can have an entire seal team made up of females .. they would fight and train together and protect each other like a team just like men they do the same excact thing they work and train together and protect each other during combat.you dont need to worry about strength or size all they need is skills
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Cristal Llamas
1/28/2013 02:33:36 pm
In my opinion it can go both ways because not everyone is ready for the real thing. Especially in many cases men come back from war traumatized in the worst ways.Women are generalized as emotional and If men come back that way, what's expected from the woman? However putting a woman on the front lines benefits in the way that they aren't identified as actual soldiers. Also, women, as most everyone has said , can be equally strong or sometimes even stronger.
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Christopher Estrada
1/28/2013 02:34:34 pm
i agree with Ellen im against combat exclusion women arent being treated with respect or mentioned for their service... why do men get more respect for their service and why not women what makes men so special that they have to make themself number 1 men and women do the exact same thing they protect they serve men and die for their country and buddies and women and men are equal no matter what... also i hate men who rape women in the military i mean what the heck you are there to serve not to get some or bother another chick for your sexual needs i mean to all military men you all have a wife show some respect and be loyal to your woman women who report sexual assault and have been a victim of it need to find the person who did it to them and once they find them they should just kick them out and make all the hard work and training for nothing so they can learn not to do it again you need to make the military environment comfortable for women not like prison where people are worried about getting raped every single day tell me this how is a women going to concentrate and focus and get better at her combat skills if she worried about getting raped
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Cristal Llamas
1/28/2013 02:48:37 pm
I agree with that but why should a women tempt evil? Freedom is what soldiers fight for correct, even in combat women aren't free, they are only known to be a distraction says Melinda Henneberger. Rape is wrong, but how are we to stop it. No matter where the woman goes men will always have an eye for her. But if her choice were ignored where is that freedom. Women fight for freedom, but also to prove they are equal among the men.
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Cristal Llamas
1/28/2013 02:49:37 pm
I agree with that but why should a women tempt evil? Freedom is what soldiers fight for correct, even in combat women aren't free, they are only known to be a distraction says Melinda h. Rape is wrong, but how are we to stop it. No matter where the woman goes men will always have an eye for her. But if her choice were ignored where is that freedom. Women fight for freedom, but also to prove they are equal among the men.
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Cristal Llamas
1/28/2013 02:50:02 pm
I agree with that but why should a women tempt evil? Freedom is what soldiers fight for correct, even in combat women aren't free, they are only known to be a distraction says Melinda h. Rape is wrong, but how are we to stop it. No matter where the woman goes men will always have an eye for her. But if her choice were ignored, where is that freedom. Women fight for freedom, but also to prove they are equal among the men.
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Christopher Estrada
1/28/2013 02:42:40 pm
i agree with Cristal it can go either both ways this is true men come back from the war traumitized imagine how the women must feel .. men become traumitized because they had something explode in front of them like a grenade or shot in the ear... it could also be because they went on suicide missions and they were really scared because on suicide missions you might not have a chance of surviving some men dont even survive those kind of missions imagine women if a women even survives a suicide missions they should be given alot of credit and be high ranked
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Cristal Llamas
1/28/2013 02:51:47 pm
Sorry about the duplicate my iPad is crazy
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Dulce Rincon
1/28/2013 03:33:43 pm
Women should not be excluded from combat because just like men, women have dedication and love for their country, enough to risk their lives for it. I know many people say that women are a distraction but like Ellen said there are gays in the military that can be equally distracted by other men . Inclusively there are women who get distracted by men but not enough to not get their job done these soldiers are professionals and they should be perfectly capable and trained to watch someone die before their eyes and still carry on with their missions. In the article Band of Brothers it says women can't hold their own not even their equipment and this is what many people used as their argument but they didn't finish the sentence it said this was harassment and it was just a saying during a conference there's no data proving this statement . Another argument is the males protective instinct over a female but in the last article about the girl getting shot by the Taliban everyone agreed that women should keep fighting for their rights even though this girl was getting shot and these women were getting brutally beaten why is it different now ? Women should fight for what is right just like in our natural rights : the right to life , liberty and the pursuit of happiness this issue falls into all of these because women know what they have to do and we don't stop until its done.
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Alexis Velasquez
1/29/2013 12:32:35 pm
i agree with Dulce R. on this us women do have rights I'm all for fairness and equality in the military. If a woman can do combat jobs as well as, or better than, men, she should be able to. However, they should also be expected to meet the same physical fitness requirements as men. Women and men go through the same training they should be able to do the same thing men do, if women prove they are fit and able to preform there duties, there is no reason women should not be allowed to do the things men are allowed to do. If a women wants to risk her life or her country there should not be anyone standing in her way.
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Genesis Herrera
1/29/2013 08:54:21 am
In my opinion women should have the freedom to fight for their countries, men arent the only strong people that can fight, women also have courage, and I know women would take the military serious.
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Genesis Herrera
1/29/2013 08:54:39 am
In my opinion women should have the freedom to fight for their countries, men aren't the only strong people that can fight, women also have courage, and I know women would take the military serious.
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Genesis Herrera
1/29/2013 08:56:09 am
In my opinion women should have the freedom to fight men aren't the only people that know how to fight women should have a chance and let them fight for their country
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